James Tanner: Carlyle and Tippett: Two Incompetent Peas in a Pod Imagine I told you that in 2016 a game would feature OEL and Linholm, and that both Fowler and Schenn would get more ice time?

100% agree on what your saying !!

about the Schenn stuff.

Good blog.

Good blog.

I hope Schenn play piles tonight. Go Hawks!!!

Good blog

Terrible blog tanner, yes carlyle is a terrible coach, but fowler has been amazing this year. Theres no reason not to lean on him every night. Also murray has maybe 2 or 3 bad trades to his name, and like 10 good ones (and maybe 2 great ones).

You hate on certain gms the same way some people irrationally hate on you- far over the top. Thats probably why so many people do it

"Lindholm, a player almost on par with fellow Swede Ekman-Larsson, averages almost two minutes less per night than a player that isn't even fit to tie his skates."

Lindholm doesn't play on the top powerplay unit like Fowler. The first unit stays out for like 80% of the time so that's mostly the difference.

Management has stated Lindholm is untouchable so not sure why "Doesn't get first powerplay time = don't care about him and will trade him for scraps."

http://www.ocregister.com...744074-ducks-playing.html

James I might have asked you this before but is there a site that shows high danger scoring chances 2 mins of 5v5 compared to 2 mins of 5v4?

Terrible blog tanner, yes carlyle is a terrible coach, but fowler has been amazing this year. Theres no reason not to lean on him every night. Also murray has maybe 2 or 3 bad trades to his name, and like 10 good ones (and maybe 2 great ones).

You hate on certain gms the same way some people irrationally hate on you- far over the top. Thats probably why so many people do it
- Johnotron

Just another example of people who think that no criticism towards things they like can be real. Anyone who'd insult your favorite things must just be biased.


Just so you know: on most days I don't even remember that Anaheim, California has a hockey team named after a Disney movie.

I certainly don't irrationally hate them. I have literally no feelings toward them at all: when it comes to the Ducks I am dead inside.

But I do think Bob Murray is one of the worst GMs in the NHL and a perfect example of how incestuous and uncreative the industry is in general.

"Lindholm, a player almost on par with fellow Swede Ekman-Larsson, averages almost two minutes less per night than a player that isn't even fit to tie his skates."

Lindholm doesn't play on the top powerplay unit like Fowler. The first unit stays out for like 80% of the time so that's mostly the difference.

Management has stated Lindholm is untouchable so not sure why "Doesn't get first powerplay time = don't care about him and will trade him for scraps."

http://www.ocregister.com...744074-ducks-playing.html
- CptAhab

My stats only included 5v5 five play. Lindholm is quite literally a top-ten NHL defenseman.

Anyone who has watched the Ducks knows that Lindholm and Fowler are the backbone of the team. Vatanen is the odd guy out. Only reason Fowler has more icetime is because he's got the offensive tools, again anyone who watches the Ducks knows Lindholm doesn't, although his shot has improved. Thus he is deployed more in a shutdown role, a lot of d-zone deployment and is integral to how Carlyle is deploying the team. The only reason Gibson has the kind of numbers he has is because of the play of the d-corps in front of him, this if anything is overshadowing the decline of the forwards. If the team wins, it will because of these strengths. They want to dump Bieksa somewhere in the woods, I know that feeling. Other than that, these young guys are going nowhere. At this point, if any of the top 3 go I'd think it would have to be Vatanen. Fowler has played so well he's likely taken himself off the market, Lindholm has only ever been on the market in Tannerville. an odd analytics driven alt-reality, where the Coyotes are still bad and in need of relocation.

My stats only included 5v5 five play. Lindholm is quite literally a top-ten NHL defenseman.
- James_Tanner

*defensively
Does not generate offense like Fowler, which is why he plays less.

James I might have asked you this before but is there a site that shows high danger scoring chances 2 mins of 5v5 compared to 2 mins of 5v4?
- Garnie

You can find high-danger scoring chances / 60 on Corisca, I'm pretty sure. If you want to put it into a two-minute chunk you'll have to use a calculator , but shouldn't be too hard.

James I might have asked you this before but is there a site that shows high danger scoring chances 2 mins of 5v5 compared to 2 mins of 5v4?
- Garnie

http://naturalstattrick.com/index.php

though you would have to do the calculations yourself

Anyone who has watched the Ducks knows that Lindholm and Fowler are the backbone of the team. Vatanen is the odd guy out. Only reason Fowler has more icetime is because he's got the offensive tools, again anyone who watches the Ducks knows Lindholm doesn't, although his shot has improved. Thus he is deployed more in a shutdown role, a lot of d-zone deployment and is integral to how Carlyle is deploying the team. The only reason Gibson has the kind of numbers he has is because of the play of the d-corps in front of him, this if anything is overshadowing the decline of the forwards. If the team wins, it will because of these strengths. They want to dump Bieksa somewhere in the woods, I know that feeling. Other than that, these young guys are going nowhere. At this point, if any of the top 3 go I'd think it would have to be Vatanen. Fowler has played so well he's likely taken himself off the market, Lindholm has only ever been on the market in Tannerville. an odd analytics driven alt-reality, where the Coyotes are still bad and in need of relocation.
- neem55

A lot of this doesn't add up with the stats. I will try to come back later and give it the rebuttal it deserves.

You can find high-danger scoring chances / 60 on Corisca, I'm pretty sure. If you want to put it into a two-minute chunk you'll have to use a calculator , but shouldn't be too hard.
- James_Tanner

Corsica just does SCF not HDCF

But I do think Bob Murray is one of the worst GMs in the NHL and a perfect example of how incestuous and uncreative the industry is in general.
- James_Tanner

I think the uncreative criticism is fair. He is painfully slow to making larger/risky trades. He usually settles on adding depth rather than moving important pieces for important pieces.

I think most people get frustrated because as you said, you forget Anaheim has a team, yet you are critical of Murray's trades/actions. You spent most of the offseason complaining that they wouldn't pay Lindholm his money, but then got him signed to a great deal. No kudos to Old Bob there?

Overall, from a fan's perspective Murray has been a steady GM, but unwilling to make a high risk move and trades are usually pretty good or if they aren't great, you can follow the moves where he corrects them/makes decent adjustments while keeping both the farm system and high picks stocked.

Corsica just does SCF not HDCF
- Feds91Stammer

noted

You can find high-danger scoring chances / 60 on Corisca, I'm pretty sure. If you want to put it into a two-minute chunk you'll have to use a calculator , but shouldn't be too hard.
- James_Tanner

thanks

http://naturalstattrick.com/index.php

though you would have to do the calculations yourself
- Feds91Stammer

thanks

What's to stop a guy from running a goalie at the most opportune time in the game, say 15 minutes left in the 3rd, in order to get the tender in the observation room for the remainder of said game?
Smith wasn't whining, he made a legit point about the matter.
Also, Faceoffs matter more than you think.

Just another example of people who think that no criticism towards things they like can be real. Anyone who'd insult your favorite things must just be biased.


Just so you know: on most days I don't even remember that Anaheim, California has a hockey team named after a Disney movie.

I certainly don't irrationally hate them. I have literally no feelings toward them at all: when it comes to the Ducks I am dead inside.

But I do think Bob Murray is one of the worst GMs in the NHL and a perfect example of how incestuous and uncreative the industry is in general.
- James_Tanner

Absoultely untrue man. I'm open to critisicm of the ducks, and Im aware of their faults. I'm not sure why you insist bob murray is terrible though, I think its for the sole reason that he hired carlyle. You talk about how many bad trades hes made but I'd like to see you name some. Hes undoubtedly been one of the best in the league at drafting

I dont think you irrationally hate them, I think you have a negative feeling of the team for irrational reasons (I saw some triggering and snowflake calling in the last blog, so i'll keep my wording extra safe). I think you have in your mind a few perceptions of what the ducks are, and these perceptions are supported by metrics such as corsi etc, but since you dont watch ducks games (save maybe the yotes game) you dont have any context to fit those stats into. I know im not the first to say this

What's to stop a guy from running a goalie at the most opportune time in the game, say 15 minutes left in the 3rd, in order to get the tender in the observation room for the remainder of said game?
Smith wasn't whining, he made a legit point about the matter.
Also, Faceoffs matter more than you think.
- shoreorrpark

Absolutely not.